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sigyn_halja ([personal profile] sigyn_halja) wrote2014-06-18 10:52 pm

Someone should start making Viking Fiction Memes

You find a piece of Viking fiction that looks quite good. It's got shieldmaidens. It's got magicians.

Then you discover that the magician are all male - not a völva, not a spækona, not a wife doing simple protection spells with a spindle. And the male magicians and seers aren't even a tiny bit effemminate or even just rumored to be gay. Also, no Finns or Saami shamans in sight.

... Seriously, am I the only one who wants to see that kind of stuff? The only one?

(Okay, I am.)

[identity profile] geilie11.livejournal.com 2014-06-20 10:59 pm (UTC)(link)
Probably not the only one. *cough cough*
We few, we happy few... [cit.]

[identity profile] sigyn-medea.livejournal.com 2014-06-21 02:36 pm (UTC)(link)
Let me love you! <3
You know what annoys me the most? The fact that Viking Era/Norse Mythology-based fiction has just so much potential and could make SJWs and witty meta!posts writers from the whole wide world scream in fangirl-ish joy ... yet nobody ever bothers to do it properly, to look into all the deliciously complicated stuff.
Seriously, the myths and sagas offer just so much material to work with. Talking about women, there's the king who marries his daughter off because OMG POLITICS NO TIME TO THINK ABOUT THE PUNY WOMEN and the one who actually asks her what she thinks about it ('cause he's afraid she will murder everyone in revenge if she's not happy with her husband), the wife who puts up with all her husband's crap and lovers and whatnot and the one who just goes "screw this, I want a divorce and half of everything you own and I want it RIGHT NOW", the witch who is invited to all feasts by the richest farmers and the one who is avoided by everybody because she is soo obviously evil. And if we look at the goddesses, there's Freya who is a fertility goddess and linked with battle and death, Skadi who made the Aesir crap their pants at least once, Hel who rules her own world, Frigg who may seem like just a wife and a mother but actually has her own lovers and is powerful enough to make the whole word swear oaths to her and knows EVERYBODY's destiny, Sigyn who is called the Incantation-fetter (no idea what it means, but it sounds pretty damn cool) ...
But no, let's just turn everybody into a badass warrior, that's just so much easier.
Not that I don't enjoy warrior ladies, I really love them as long as they don't wear skimpy iron bikinis and stuff, but it gets ridiculous.
And don't get me started on male magicians. It seems it must either be Gandalf or a dirty-looking shaman who's had way too many poisonous mushrooms (looking at you, History Channel's Vikings!), no in-between. And, of course, neither of them will ever be queer, or crossdress, or be accused with a nid-pole ... no no, all Viking men were extra-manly guys who only ever thought about taking British ladies home as sex-slaves. *eyeroll*
... Also, it's a really really stupid idea, but I would love to see a Viking warrior trying to insult a Finnish wizard by calling him gay. And the Finnish wizard being all unimpressed and "yeah, how many Northern chicks did YOU try to kidnap today?". XD
BTW, did you know that Finns and Saami people were more or less all inherently magic to the Vikings? ** Like, as soon as a Norse king dared to say he liked a Saami girl, his men went "OMG NO she used dark magic to bewitch you!". And Finns even sold ropes tied in knots to Scandinavian travellers sailors telling them they were magical and that they had the power to control the winds. XD
Also, people who were called half-troll or half-jotunn usually had Saami or Finnish ancestors, and some theories even said Jotunheim could be located in Finland!
... Okay, sorry for the ranting and also the random geeking out. XD It's just that lately I've been reading a lovely essay that also deals with this kind of stuff ...
And I'd really love to see some Viking characters interacting with Saami characters, or Finns - or Slavs, or Byzantines, or Arabs ... **
Ah, the possibilities everyone always ignores!

[identity profile] geilie11.livejournal.com 2014-06-22 12:06 pm (UTC)(link)
I could kiss you right now! You're absolutely right. And let me tell you, I had never met someone so passionate about these themes before bumping into you and I'm sooooo happy I have! *w*

Anyway, you know what I think the problem is, at least one of the many many problems? We - meaning fans and common folks who just know a bit of Norse lore - tend to ignore the distinction. Worse still, we tend to make tha assumption that Norse = Vikings and that there was nothing else there at the time (or before & soon after, for all that matters). No one else.
It's just that Vikings got more famous, I guess, 'cause we certainly study very little about 'em too, but at least they're mentioned in our text books. And since not everybody is curious enough (like you are, for example, and judging by that I dare say you'd make a wonderful scholar) to go looking for answers about historical accuracy, especially when writing some little piece of fiction put together mainly for fun - well, you get the picture.
It works for other parts of the world as well, what with Latin America or China or all those countries that we know nearly nothing about. It'd be great to study all of that, it's very interesting to find out how royally wrong we are in our misconceptions. XD
Aaaaaaand I fear I got a little OT, didn't I? Sorry, I got carried away. X°D
Edited 2014-06-22 12:07 (UTC)

[identity profile] sigyn-medea.livejournal.com 2014-06-22 01:33 pm (UTC)(link)
Being passionate about weird stuff is just what I do. XD And I'm also really happy about having met you, both because I finally get a chance to talk about these things and because I just enjoy talking with you. <3
Alas, you're right. We only learn a few things, and then we think that's all that there is to it because nobody ever bothers to tell us otherwise. It's kinda depressing, thinking about the kind of stuff we're missing out on everyday.
Still, one would think that people writing fiction about ancient societies should have the most fun researching on them and getting them right. But that's probably just me having too much faith in mankind again ... *sigh*
You know, Vikings started fascinating me in the first place because it seemed like there was just so little about them. I mean, it was like we had Greeks and Romans handed to us on a silver platter, and there was something about Egyptians too in our textbooks ... but what about them?
Now that I'm older I know that there is still LOADS of stuff we don't know even about Greeks and Romans and that we can only theorize about, but back then it seemed a bit unfair, somehow. It was like, those Viking guys had brilliant legends and poems and even discovered America (... Canada, but still), how could they be just raiding/pillaging/raping barbarians? The two pictures just didn't fit together.
Well, I get carried away all the damn time, so I can't really blame you for that! XD I think it's just natural, when you get passionate about the topic you're talking about. :)

[identity profile] geilie11.livejournal.com 2014-06-22 08:16 pm (UTC)(link)
The enjoyment is totally mutual, my dear. ;)

"Still, one would think that people writing fiction about ancient societies should have the most fun researching on them and getting them right."
Yup, that's me. I often do lots & lots of research even when I'm writing about the present, to be honest. I spent days looking into famous flying aces, once, and one memorable time I studied a map of London for hours just to know if my character could actually walk from point A to point B in the amount of time I needed her to. Maybe I'm just mad. XD
But it's fun, as you were saying, and I do learn many very interesting things. And yes, maybe I'll never have a use for them again, but fuck it: it's knowledge, however strange or particular or short-lived, and to me knowledge is always good. u_u
With Vikings (and all the other "ignored" or "forgotten" civilizations) it's exactly like that: you start getting curious because our history books make it like they just got from being nothing to sail all the way to North America, leaving out all the transitions. And I, being a big sucker for "origin stories", hate not being able to retrace the facts. XD
So yes, I agree completely and I'm happy that there are still people who enjoy learning more about what they like. :)

[identity profile] sigyn-medea.livejournal.com 2014-06-23 11:21 am (UTC)(link)
Wow! That bit about the map is really impressive to me - both because it's actually kinda awesome (realistic pace and timing for a character's action? The world need more of that stuff!) and because I'm the type of person who could lose herself in her own town and is pretty much crap at finding out the best routes to go anywhere. XD
I remember once I spent a lot of time researching the Winter War to write a Hetalia fanfiction for a prompt - which wasn't even actually about Finland. And I don't even like Hetalia that much anymore, to be honest. So yeah, it was more a giant excuse to dig deeper into the topic and look into the pretty unknown stuff without having to openly face my own weirdness. XD
Knowledge is knowledge even when it's pretty much useless, yeah. And who knows, we could always amaze people with utterly unknow trivias and details. XD

[identity profile] geilie11.livejournal.com 2014-06-23 03:30 pm (UTC)(link)
Yeah, well, I don't do it every time, 'cause I'd probably go mad pretty fast if I did, but I like to get it as realistic as I possibly can. Luckily, I'm pretty good at orientation. XD

OMG, see? That's why I think you're awesome! THE WINTER WAR? Nobody ever tries to actually remember the Winter War, let alone study it in detail! I love you. *_*

"So yeah, it was more a giant excuse to dig deeper into the topic and look into the pretty unknown stuff without having to openly face my own weirdness."
Yup, that's exactly it. I mean, I probably should spend a lot more time studying for my exams, instead of filling up brain space with all these things, but, well, we only live once! *pathetic excuses for my bad case of laziness*

And you know what? In my perfect little world I would make a man fall in love with me by reciting the names of all the kings and queens of Sweden (which no, I don't know - just to be clear), or some other oddity like that. It'd be the nerdiest love story ever, don't you think? XD

[identity profile] sigyn-medea.livejournal.com 2014-06-23 05:34 pm (UTC)(link)
Yeah, I get it could get really tiring and even maddening really fast. XD

My fascination with the Winter War began, of course, with the "OMG FINLAND IS SO AWESOME IT EVEN DEFEATED SOVIET RUSSIA" meme. XD But really, I wanted to see what the big deal really was - oh, and also I'm obsessed with Finland. Have I ever mentioned that? (Okay, I most probably did, knowing me.)

But anyway, I decided to stick around when I got to the less known, less heroic part of the story. Actually, I know a few basic things about the war tactis (read: "Seriously, didn't the Russians bother checking the weather or the territory? Man, Finnish guerrilla suonds awesome!"), but I got hooked on minor stuff like the way the war was portrayed by foreign press and weird stuff like the drug abuse in the Finnish army. Oh, and the sometimes-true-sometimes-not anecdotes, let's not forget those!

In my perfect little world, my ideal man would romance me with either Greek lyrical poetry or skaldic poetry. <3

(Or by talking Finnish to me, but, shh! That's just one of my oddest kinks. I still wonder why the heck I can't just find French and Spanish cute and sexy like everyone else ...)

[identity profile] geilie11.livejournal.com 2014-06-23 09:11 pm (UTC)(link)
You've got a good obsession, there: Finland is awesome, period. Even if you chose to ignore everything else, it's got great music, it's got reindeer (REINDEER! *w*) and it's Santa's home. Pretty hard to beat, I'd say. u_u
I admit I've never really analyzed the Winter War in detail, but from what little I know and from what you're telling it seems to be a part of European history which would be very interesting to examine in depth. There's so much we never really bother to learn about... I don't know about you, but I know close to nothing of my land's history, too, and it's quite sad, if you think about it... One day I'm certainly going to change that. ;)

Oh, well, if it's Greek and/or skaldic poetry you're looking for, you'll probably have plenty suitable admirers at university. I mean, I met someone who tried to romance me with latin poetry, so... XD
Btw, I like French and Spanish all right, and I usually prefer soft sounding languages, but those few times I heard Tuomas Holopainen speak his mother tongue? Yeah, I almost had a heart attack. *brofist*

[identity profile] sigyn-medea.livejournal.com 2014-06-24 09:36 am (UTC)(link)
And all the lovely forests and lakes! And the Northern Lights! And the naked dudes getting drunk and hitting each other with birch banches while steaming themselves in the sauna! And the wife-carrying competition, also known as the throw-your-wife-over-your-shoulder-and-almost-drown-her-to-win-beer competition! And the gay bondage stamps!
... Okay, maybe I went a little overboard. XD
Yup, the Winter War is really interesting stuff. I feel like people usually just remember Simo Haya, but there's a lot more about it, really.
I think not knowing about the place you grew up in is pretty common - it's just so close to you that you never think there could be something interesting and special about it. Like, I never knew Garibaldi had been in my town until my school called a schoolar for a lecture about the Risorgimento in our area - and I live five minutes away from a Piazza Garibaldi, where there supposedly is some "Garibaldi was here" plate I've never even seen. XD
And it doesn't stop at that. Apparently, years ago they found lots of Roman and pre-Roman artifacts in my dad's hometown in Basilicata ... but people thought they wouldn't be allowed to build their houses where they wanted to if they told anyone, so they just took them or sold them or whatever. My grandma even gave my dad a Roman lamp she had once, though I don't really know how ancient it could actually be.
Luckily, people got more considerate in time, and know they have an archeological dig and a little museum.

Latin poetry? Oh god, did he try with Catullus or something like that? And what were the results? XD

I actually quite like French, it sounds cute and melodious and a bit funny to listen to. But Spanish, I just can't get into it, it just sounds too much like a weird version of Italian. XD
Finnish sounds just so much ... well, not really like a song, more like a nursery rhyme or something like that, with all those "k"s and double letters and those wonderful "r"s. It's really soothing. Tuomas speaking Finnish is the hottest thing, but you can't imagine the eargasm I had when I listened to Taikatalvi the first time. XD

[identity profile] geilie11.livejournal.com 2014-06-24 11:37 am (UTC)(link)
The wife-carrying competition is one of those weird sports I'm absolutely, deeply, madly in love with. Almost like the Scottish caber toss (the tree-trunk-throwing thing, you know?), or the cheese-rolling-down-the-hill race. People think up the weirdest things, sometimes. XD
The gay bondage stamps are awesome, btw. And I thought UK's Doctor Who stamps were unusual... XP

Crazy coincidences everywhere! I live nearby a Piazza Garibaldi too (no plaques or historical landmarks there, though) and - more to the point - my father is from Basilicata as well! I can't believe it! *_* He and my uncle have lived in Rome for as long as I've known them, they both still do with their wives and children, but their parents - my granparents - live all the way down in Potenza. I used to go there to spend the winter holidays quite often when I was younger and they were in better shape, but now their health is failing and I, living in Sardinia and having lessons and exams almost all year long, unfortunately seldom manage to go visit. :( Anyway, that's some coincidence, isn't it? If I may ask, what's your dad's hometown? Who knows, maybe I've even been there... ^^
But picking up our original topic again: what you said is very true. It seems that quite often the closest we are to something, the less we know about it. It's the same as when, for example, you live just two doors away from some cute restaurant everybody loves and you've never been, only because "it's just down the street, I can go whenever I want". Same with monuments or museums or whatever: if you know you have the opportunity to visit whenever you'd like, it's easy to postpone day after day after day. It's often happened to me to finally go see some famous city landmark that's right in front of my eyes every day only when I had someone else to bring there, someone who maybe came from another town and wanted to go sightseeing. XD It's nuts, if you think about it, but I suppose it's just human nature. We get curious about the exotic far more than we do about familiar things, things we think we already know when in truth it's often quite the opposite.

Oh, it was Latin poetry of all sorts. I remember both Catullus and Virgil and I'm sure there was Horace as well, because we were analyzing his satire in our Latin literature classes, but it's been a couple of years ago and I wasn't really interested in the guy, so I kinda forgot the details. Now that I think about it I'm sure he also tried with some Greek poets, at some point (Homer, mostly; maybe Sappho), but he was specialized in Christian Latin culture and it showed, while I'm more of a Greek-geek kind of girl: it couldn't work out, too many artistic differences. XP

Our tastes, however, match really good (quelle surprise, eh? ;P): I'd very much like to learn French, someday, but Spanish? I mean, I don't think it's ugly, per se, but I wouldn't try and study it either.
And Taikatalvi it's eargasmic, indeed. *w* And yes, "southern" languages usually appeal to me the most, but amongst norse languages (and my inner linguistic is seething, right now, because from a scientific point of view I'm making some veeeeeeery wrong categorizations, here, but let's ignore all of that) I think I like Finnish the best: I don't know about Danish, I've never actually heard it, but I can't really get into Swedish or Norwegian. Icelandic isn't bad, though.

[identity profile] sigyn-medea.livejournal.com 2014-06-24 01:17 pm (UTC)(link)
No one beats the Finns when it comes to crazy sports. Wife carrying and mobile throwing are currently my favourites. XD If you're interested, here's something about them: http://telefinn.blogspot.it/2012/07/weird-finnish-sports.html

Oh, the Scots! Another wonderful people. *-* I didn't know about the cheese-rolling, to be honest, but I love the thing with the tree-trunk. XD
Now that I think about it, Finns and Scots are both known for drinking ... but surely that doesn't have anything to do with their tastes in sports! ;)

... My dad's hometown IS near Potenza! Wow, this is starting to look like Voyager-worthy stuff! XD My dad and his sibling went to live in Lombardy when they were pretty young, but we still have lots of relatives down there and we try to go there every Summer.
My dad comes from Banzi, and I've never met someone who didn't come from there who knew where it was. XD
Anyway, here it is: http://it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Banzi
So, if I can ask you too, where's your father from? :)

Aww, I don't know if that sounds desperate or cute. But yeah, I guess some differences are just too much. XD

I studied French in middle school and I was pretty good at it too, but now my French got a bit rusty. I'd like to refresh it a bit, really ...
Yeah, I don't think Spanish is really ugly either, though it does sound funny to me, but it's so weird because it sound kinda like Italian and I understand a few words so it sounds like I should be able to get what people are saying ... but my experience in Spain last Summer proved that no, Spanish just makes me go WTF everytime. XD
I've heard a little of Norwegian, but I couldn't really get into it either. And I know Swedish is basically Norwegian with a somewhat clearer pronunciation and Danish is Swedish with a potato stuck in the mouth, so I didn't even really try. XD Though once I watched a video with two characters speaking in standard Swedish and Finland-Swedish, and the Finland-Swedish was really cute. <3
I'd love to learn Icelandic, if only because it's the closer one to Old Norse. **

[identity profile] geilie11.livejournal.com 2014-06-24 03:27 pm (UTC)(link)
It's the first time I hear about mobile throwing (it's GREAT!) and I'm not sure I'd heard of snowmobile sailing before, but wife carrying, swamp football and log-rolling I knew of. Finns are so wonderfully mad. <3
I love Scots too much for my own good, but what can I say? They're ginger, rowdy and they wear skirts (and are very good knitters, I hear): how can I not love them? Top it up with all the trunk throwing and there you go, perfection! XD Cheeserolling is actually Welsh, if I remember correctly, but well - they're all Brits, I guess it runs in their possibly highly alcoholic blood. XD

Banzi... Can't say I've been there, no, but I'm quite sure I've heard it mentioned by my former professor while reading Horace (speak of the devil)! My dad is from Potenza, I'm not sure if his parents were both born in the city, though, or if at least one of them originally came from some nearby little town. Anyway, Basilicata is a beautiful region, is it not? Maybe it's nostalgia speaking, but I loved going there - especially around Christmas, when it snowed... *_*

You should pick French up again, it's a beautiful language - and knowing more than one foreign language is always good. ;) I never studied it at school, unfortunately. I can understand it a bit, thanks to my good ear for languages, but if I have to speak it myself I stop at bonjour and bonsoir and little else. Spanish I can understandish, sort of, but again: I can't utter a word of it. XD
Oh my, "Danish is Swedish with a potato stuck in the mouth", really? Ok, now I most certainly know I won't like it. X°D
Icelandic is cute. Well, maybe "cute" isn't the best way to describe it, to be honest, but it's got that strange kind of roughness that makes me smile. I've met a couple of Icelanders at several editions of an international competition of folk wrestling (they were Glíma wrestlers) and when they talked to each other I couldn't help but listen, even if I obviously didn't understand a word they were saying. Then again, anything even remotely connected to Old Norse has to be fabulous!

[identity profile] sigyn-medea.livejournal.com 2014-06-24 04:41 pm (UTC)(link)
I think mobile throwing would be a great way to blow off some steam. XD And the Scots are amazing - and they totally rock those kilts, they're skirts and they're still the manliest pieces of clothing ever! <3
Also they have David Tennant and John Barrowman, which just adds to their glory. <3
Ah, I should have expected it was the Welsh! XD I mean, people going around telling each other stuff like "whyllwlylwlyw" and understanding it ... there's just something not quite right but seriously crazy awesome about them.
I'd be careful in labelling all of them Brits - I'd at least consider the English separatly, first. XD

I'm not surprised because you've never been there ... but I am because you remember that thing in Horace! ** He did write a poem about Fons Bandusiae, which some people claim actually was in Banzi - the only famous thing about it! XD
I've never seen any snow in Basilicata, as we only go there in Summer. When I was younger, I didn't really like going there: we had to travel for hours by car to get to this tiny little town where everybody was either an over-affectionate relative who talked way too much or a noisy bored kid smoking in the park ... all the small places problems, you know. But in time I started to appreciate the town's strong points, like the medieval Norman parade or the tarantella & pizzica nights - I couldn't dance to save my life, but it's fun watching and listening to the music.
But yeah, Basilicata is a really beautiful land. For example, I've always wanted to go on the Dolomites. :)

French is really quite easy to understand, yeah. The words are pretty similar to Italian and the grammar isn't too hard to make out even when you're just hearing it. :)
That's how Swedes and Norwegians usually describe it. XD I read somewhere that Danish and Norwegian (Bokmal, at least) are more alike when it comes to grammar, but Danish has such a weird pronunciation that Norwegians understand spoken Swedish better. And then, of course, there are all the "not even Danes understand Danish" jokes. XD
Wow, I didn't even know modern glìma existed! It sounds so cool! ** Everything Old Norse is awesome, you're right, and I think I get what you mean about the "cute roughness". <3

[identity profile] geilie11.livejournal.com 2014-06-24 08:55 pm (UTC)(link)
Honestly? Right now I'd be very happy to throw my mobile (which is working only when it suits him, at present) and I'm pretty sure I'd make some record. XD Scots, don't make me start... There's Tennant and Barrowman, yes, and Ewan McGregor, James McAvoy, Gerard Butler and maaaany many others. Kilts rock. But the Welsh, Cheeserolling aside, have THIS, and that's so epic that I think the Oscar goes to them. XD

I understand all too well, I had to fly all the way to Rome and then go down to Potenza by car with my dad: it was a hell of a trip. But then I got to go up in the mountains and play with fresh snow... I know, I know, I seem obsessed by it, but I don't get to see much of that down here in Cagliari, as you can imagine, so it was pretty exciting. But a couple of times I went during the summer and it was definitely duller, so I understand you well. ^^ Dancing tarantella, or just listening to some little band playing it live in the town square, is always a joy, though. *_*

You know what? Now you got me curious. As soon as I have some time, I'll definitely look for some Danish speakers on Youtube, just for kicks. I mean, it's gotta be funny, at least. XD
Glíma is beautiful to look at. I've become quite a fan of folk wrestling, recently (bringing the Scots back, did you know they wrestle wearing kilt? How cool is that?), and I must say: Icelanders have a very powerful and elegant style. Not to mention, the strange belts they put on to fight make their perfect butts really stand out. *cough cough*

[identity profile] sigyn-medea.livejournal.com 2014-06-25 09:00 am (UTC)(link)
That video is beautiful. <3 And the Welsh win everything because of that name and actually coming up with a pronunciation for it, naturally - I guess I always thought they just called it That Place or The Town That Shall Not Be Named or something. XD

I get you - snow just makes the world seem like such a quiet, magical place, doesn't it? I've always linked it to fewer cars on the street, warm blankets and warm drinks. :) Oh, and the hope of closed schools, but that doesn't really matter now. XD

You know, talking with you made me remember a couple of comics about Danish and the other Scandinavia languages, and of course Welsh ...

http://satwcomic.com/language-lesson
http://satwcomic.com/stop-talking
http://satwcomic.com/just-a-number
http://satwcomic.com/talk-to-me-2
http://satwcomic.com/size-matters
http://satwcomic.com/welsh-smash

Yeah, I do love Humon to death. XD

And now I'm gonna look up some folk wrestling videos. I can't resist kilts and cute Nordic butts. *-*

[identity profile] geilie11.livejournal.com 2014-06-26 09:37 pm (UTC)(link)
I think they just call it Llanfair, but I'm not so sure about that. I do know, however, that some of them manage to learn the correct pronunciation only listening to the song. I mean, it seems it's not just a foreigner problem. XD

Exactly, you got me. I love the sound of silence (random Simon & Garfunkel quote, here! XD) more than anything else, and snow softens everything and I've always found that beautiful.

OMG - actually, I'm going for OhMyLoki, from now on, so... OML! THOSE COMICS! I'm in love with Sweden. And Wales, also Wales. And - well, truth be told, I should say I'm now officially in love with Humon, too. *w*

[identity profile] sigyn-medea.livejournal.com 2014-06-27 09:02 am (UTC)(link)
You know, I actually tried reading the name after listening to the song ... but it just doesn't make sense! XD I think I get what I'm supposed to do with the "w" and the "ll", but everything is still so weird anyway! XD
But the Welsh win everything for coming up with overlong words not even the Welsh themselves can't pronunce. XD

Another thing we have in common. :) I love the way snow makes everything softer, quieter, clearer, and more orderly in a way - like the world slows down for a bit, and you can just relax.

Come to the Dark Side ... we've also got threesomes, femdom and lots of slash. ;) And you just wait until you read some comics with Finland ...

[identity profile] geilie11.livejournal.com 2014-06-27 12:36 pm (UTC)(link)
I sat down and learned it all when I first found out about the song - took me a while, too - but after a couple of hours I could remember only the first and the last bit. I tried again and again, but it just doesn't stick (predictably). XD

Oh no you don't. You won't bring me into another beautifully insane fandom. You cannot!
...or maybe just a teeny tiny bit?
*her resolve weakens by the minute*

[identity profile] sigyn-medea.livejournal.com 2014-06-27 01:19 pm (UTC)(link)
BTW, talking about awesome songs, I think this one was linked in the description of one of the comics, but I'm not sure, so ...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f488uJAQgmw

But in case you already saw this video, have another one as well.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AzUeEj0LdCw&feature=kp

Makes you wonder what Norwegians actually think about their neighbours, doesn't it? XD


Oh, I will ...
First, it'll be just SATW. Then, perhaps you'll check Niels & Gang out, because it's the one with the threesome and the psychopathic but absolutely fabulous Dane and the - wait for it! - Scottish James Bond parody who may look more like an Englishman but is actually into kilts and horse-riding and caber tossing. Then, you'll discover all the rest of it - and soon you will be lost.
Afraid yet? ;)

... But seriously, you should check out her mythology comics, at least. I bet you'd love them. ^^

http://humon.deviantart.com/art/Loki-and-His-Children-212652937

http://humon.deviantart.com/art/Pregnant-Gods-341862178

http://humoncomics.com/tyr

[identity profile] geilie11.livejournal.com 2014-06-28 03:21 pm (UTC)(link)
That song- That song is absolutely A-W-E-S-O-M-E! I'm wheezing, right now! X°D
I didn't know the second vid either, and I'm not quite sure I get it at all, but it's hilarious anyway - does it make any sense? Maybe I'm mad, but I was laughing hard just by hearing those accents.

You're cruel. And I love you, but you're cruel all the same. I mean, how can you talk of Scots Bond parodies - to me! - and expect me not to fall right into the abyss? I am very much afraid. For what little is left of my sanity, if not else. XD

I knew the drawing of Loki and his children, but the other two strips you linked are completely new to me. The pregnant gods AA is fabulous (I swear I'm gonna look for some info about Celtic Guy, 'cause he looks absolutely terrified and it's too funny)! And the one about Tyr? So adorable! *_*

[identity profile] sigyn-medea.livejournal.com 2014-06-28 04:31 pm (UTC)(link)
Don't tell me, that song has become my new drug ... WE GOT THE Æ Ø Å! YOU AIN'T GOT THE Æ Ø Å! *insert embarassing dance moves here*

Uh ... just asking but, did you turn on the subtitles? XD Anyway, as far as I understand it, the plot is (more or less) this: the main characters were boy-scouts in the same international Nordic group, and they used to play kims lek together. Kims lek is a game where all players place their things under a veil or something like that, then they all look away as one of them removes one item. After that, the other players must guess what item was removed.
The main characters meet again as adult for an ex-boy-scout conferance. The Norwegian suggests they play kims lek again, but the Swede thinks it's a silly game for kids so the Norwegian proposes to play an adult version of the game where the stakes are much higher: money, cars, boats, houses ...
Only the Swede takes the game way too far: he "removes" the Dane's dick and he attempts to do the same with the Norwegian's life. The Norwegian is desperatly trying to reason with the Swede and to save himself and the Dane ... when the Finn suddenly pops up and decides to "remove" the Swede, the Norwegian and himself.
The moral of the story is (as far as I understand): a Dane's most important possession is his dick, the Danes are the Norwegians' only likeable neighbours, the Swedes are fucked-up bastards and the Finns are fucked-up and suicidal. Oh, and nobody ever remembers the Icelanders.
... And that is Norwegian comedy for you! XD
BTW, the accents crack me up every single time - dat Danish! <3 "KRISTOFFAH!" XD

Pfft, sanity. Who needs that anyway?

If I recall correctly, the vengenful goddess is Macha, and Chùchulainn is the hero who solves the situation.

Humon also draws wonderful pictures about Danish folklore, especially trolls. Why yes, I will keep torturing you. <3

[identity profile] geilie11.livejournal.com 2014-06-28 10:46 pm (UTC)(link)
*joins the silly dance*

Have mercy, I was watching it (and yes, of course I turned on the subs, I'm not that masochist yet! XD) with barely five hours of sleep on me. Rough night spent comforting a heartbroken friend, you know... Let's just say I'll watch it again tomorrow and probably laugh with more awareness. ;P
I loved the Finn, btw, he was total bonkers, but the Dane and his accent cracked me up! XD

Uuuh, Chùchulainn! Haven't heard of him in quite a loooooong time. It shows, I should definitely brush up on my celtic lore. u_u

I should start torturing you as well, but I'm not sure I know how... yet. <3

[identity profile] sigyn-medea.livejournal.com 2014-06-29 09:06 am (UTC)(link)
Sorry, it's just that I suddenly went "wait ... I DID link her the subbed one, right?" XD Anyway, I hope your friend feels better now. :)
... Though the original video is funny as hell too, if I you turn on the automatic subs. XD
The Finn is adorable, I just love the way he talks - the way he says "foyer" always crack me up, and his final lines are deliciously creepy. <3
But the Dane ... I want to feel sorry for that poor sod, but then he opens his mouth and I just burst out laughing! XD

Can't wait until you find something worth torturing me with, darling. I'm soo scared ... <3

Irrelevant P.S. time: have you had a chance to check out the Nibelungenlied parody? It's totally fine if you haven't had the time or something else, just asking. :)

[identity profile] geilie11.livejournal.com 2014-06-29 10:07 am (UTC)(link)
As a matter of fact, my friend wrote me this morning to tell that he talked things out with his sweetheart. All's end that ends well, I suppose. ;)

Back to business, though. The Finn is indeed creepadorable (his way of saying "foyer" cracks me up too! XD) but the Dane. The Dane! If that portrayal of the Danish is even remotely accurate, I'm afraid I can never go to Denmark: I'll just downright laugh in the face of every poor soul who tries to approach me. XD

As for my torturing weapon of choice, I'm still looking for the perfect one, but in the meantime I have a bonus or two for you! Have one of my fav fanart!Lokis on the web, to begin with, and then a silly little comic about Az & Crowley dealing with the nativity. Also, since I'm a cynic and love dark humour to bits, do you know I'm bored to death? It's a super-funny comic about a very ill-fated Grim Reaper. XD

Would you believe it? I've just finished reading your parody! XD
It's adorable, smart and funny and just right in so many things! I don't even know what made me laugh the most, but I sure was wheezing with laughter by the time I read the dialogue between Ute and her daughter (that line about the stableboy? Masterstroke! XD). You get my seal of approval - and Crowley's, too. <3

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